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The inability of a child to thrive in a Constitutionally protected God based perpetual threat and rape culture is not a fault of the child; however it does become their odious responsibility upon reaching adulthood to resolve the harms done to them. The
Christian religion at its core is a toxic mechanism
whereby intergenerational trauma is kept alive, active, and deeply embedded in each new generation, as
it has done over the past 2,000+ years.
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PUBLISHED: March 18, 2025 9:59:11 PM UPDATED: No Updates
Submitted Andrew Klein
### *1. Legal & Philosophical Frameworks*
#### *Freedom of Religion/Belief*
- *Key Legal Systems*:
- *U.S. First Amendment*: Protects religious exercise and prohibits establishment of state religion. Rooted in Enlightenment ideals (Locke, Jefferson) emphasizing individual conscience.
- *European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR)*: Article 9 protects freedom of thought, conscience, and religion, balanced against public safety and rights of others.
- *International Law*: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) and ICCPR (1966) enshrine religious freedom as universal.
- *Philosophical Justifications*:
- *Autonomy*: Kantian ethics stress individual moral agency.
- *Social Contract*: Locke argued that religious coercion undermines societal trust.
- *Pluralism*: Rawls’ “veil of ignorance” supports protecting minority beliefs for a just society.
#### *Mental Disorders in Law*
- *Classification*:
- Historically, mental illness was conflated with moral failing (e.g., medieval “lunacy” laws).
- Modern systems (e.g., DSM-5, ICD-11) use medical criteria, but legal definitions vary.
- Laws like the *Mental Health Act (UK)* or *Involuntary Commitment statutes (U.S.)* regulate treatment and confinement.
- *Historical Conflation*:
- *Witch Trials*: Accused “witches” (often mentally ill women) were labeled heretics.
- *19th-Century Asylums*: Religious dissenters (e.g., Quakers, Shakers) were sometimes institutionalized.
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### *2. Social & Ethical Dimensions*
#### *Differentiating Belief from Delusion*
- *Criteria*:
- *Community Acceptance*: Religious beliefs are often shared; delusions are idiosyncratic.
- *Functionality*: Courts assess whether beliefs impair functioning (e.g., United States v. Ballard, 1944).
- *Medicalization*: The DSM-5 distinguishes “religious/spiritual experiences” from psychotic disorders.
- *Ethical Dilemmas*:
- *Pathologizing Belief*: Labeling minority religions (e.g., new religious movements) as “cults” risks discrimination.
- *Cultural Relativism*: Western psychiatry may pathologize non-normative spiritual experiences (e.g., shamanic visions).
#### *Case Examples*:
- *Raelians*: Claim cloning beliefs are religious; critics call them pseudoscientific delusions.
- *Schizophrenia and Religion*: Some individuals attribute hallucinations to divine communication, complicating diagnosis.
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### *3. Freedom vs. Social Order*
#### *Balancing Rights*
- *Public Safety*:
- *Religious Limits*: Bans on human sacrifice or polygamy (e.g., Reynolds v. U.S., 1878).
- *Mental Health*: Involuntary commitment laws (e.g., O’Connor v. Donaldson, 1975) prioritize safety over autonomy.
- *Legal Protections*:
- *Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)*: Protects individuals with mental disorders from discrimination, akin to religious protections.
- *ECHR Article 8*: Recognizes rights to personal development, overlapping with mental health advocacy.
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### *4. Case Studies & Contemporary Debates*
#### *Religious Freedom Clashes*
- *Employment Division v. Smith (1990)*: Denied unemployment benefits for peyote use in Native American rituals, leading to the *Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA)*.
- *Faith Healing vs. Medicine*: Courts have prosecuted parents (e.g., Walker v. Superior Court, 1991) for refusing medical care for children on religious grounds.
#### *Mental Health in Law*
- *Insanity Defense*: Controversial cases like John Hinckley Jr. (1982) sparked reforms limiting its use.
- *Involuntary Commitment*: Addington v. Texas (1979) raised due process standards for confinement.
#### *Media & Perception*
- *Religious Extremism vs. Psychosis*:
- *Extremism*: Framed as ideological (e.g., terrorism) with legal/political responses.
- *Psychosis*: Media often links violence to mental illness, despite low statistical correlation.
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### *Deliverables Synthesis*
#### *Comparative Legal Analysis*
| *Jurisdiction* | *Religious Freedom Protections* | *Mental Health Laws* |
|-------------------|-----------------------------------|------------------------|
| *U.S.* | First Amendment, RFRA | ADA, Involuntary Commitment |
| | ECHR Article 9 | Mental Health Act (varies by state) |
| | ICCPR Article 18 | UN Convention on Rights of Persons with Disabilities |
#### *Historical Evolution*
- *Pre-Modern*: Belief and madness conflated (e.g., divine possession vs. demonic influence).
- *Enlightenment*: Secularization separated church and state; medicalization of mental illness began.
- *Modern*: Human rights frameworks protect both belief and mental health, but tensions persist.
#### *Ethical Dilemmas*
- *Subjectivity*: Who defines “delusion”? (e.g., political dissenters labeled mentally ill in USSR).
- *Rights vs. Harm*: When does restricting belief/autonomy become necessary (e.g., suicidal cults)?
#### *Case Study Synthesis*
- *Religious vs. Delusional*: Courts often defer to community norms (e.g., Ballard upheld belief in miracles as protected).
- *Mental Health Precedents*: O’Connor v. Donaldson established that non-dangerous individuals cannot be confined.
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### *Conclusion*
The tension between protecting freedom of belief and regulating mental health reflects deeper societal struggles to define *normality*, *autonomy*, and *collective safety*. While legal systems increasingly distinguish religious liberty from mental health concerns, biases persist in how societies label “acceptable” vs. “pathological” beliefs. Future debates must balance empathy for cognitive diversity with safeguards against harm.
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2023 Findings in Spain found that 0.6% of the population of Spain had been sexually abused by Roman Catholic
priests and laity.
Up to 50 million alive on any day who have been raped or abused by Catholic clergy &/or Catholic laity
Current world population is 8 billion - 0.6% = 48 million alive today who are likely to have been raped by
Catholics globally.
The
church protected the perpetrators, not the victims
"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I don't stand
outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave. I've noted
carefully what his Holiness has said in the United States. Obviously that was a source of great comfort
and healing in the United States. I'm like all Australians very much looking forward to what the Pope
has to say here in Australia as well, as I am to my own conversation with the Pope later this
morning."
Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister of Australia, 17 July 2008. more
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Wednesday, 22 June 2022 - I may not have this down syntax, word and letter perfect or
with
absolute precision in every aspect; however time and the evidence will show that I am closer to the truth than
any religion has been or will likely be.
Let history be the standard by which that is measured.
Youtube - listen to Commissioner Bob
Atkinson get it wrong - again
The Commissioner informs us that the clergy sexual abuse issue was all over and that it had only been a
small statistical glitch around the year 2000. History shows this to have been a display of absolute ignorance
on the issue ...
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