The FAQyMe gene

«    671    672    673    674    675    676    677   678   679   680   681    »

The inability of a child to thrive in a Constitutionally protected God based perpetual threat and rape culture is not a fault of the child; however it does become their odious responsibility upon reaching adulthood. The Christian religion at it's core is a toxic mechanism whereby intergenerational trauma has been kept alive, active and deeply embedded in each new generation over the past 2,000+ years.

The FAQyMe gene #676

"If your premise is false all that follows will also be false. If your premise is false all that follows will also be false. Conversations with the World by sometimes engaging with Boomers, Gen Z, Millennials, genuine humans, genuine clergy, my representatives ... or even with an AI"

On Assessing others and the foreign state of The Vatican

Published: Tuesday, 14 February 2023 3:04:41 AM

''Andrew Collins The faithful say that they are the church. Yet they turned a blind eye to the rumours and stories. Then when they saw offenders jailed, they pretended nobody had any idea. When they heard details from the royal commission they refused to believe it, and made up excuses. They blamed the victims. And they kept giving money, even after they heard that it was used to pay for lawyers and to take care of offenders and pay victims. They put their heads in the sand.


Thier inactions have allowed the abuses to continue. Why haven't they marched up to the bishops offices, demanding that every single offender be removed from their church? That their church stops fighting victims? That their church shows leadership to every other person on the planet that child sexual abuse should never be tolerated? That the victims be cared for and treated with love and respect? That those who covered up be expelled or sanctioned?

They have allowed their church leaders to act this way. Good people wouldn't stand back and do nothing. Good people would take action. If their Church is a paedophile protecting church then they are responsible. They need to fix it.''

JohnB: Andrew Collins I do understand that this a vexed issue that even the Royal Commission became bogged and divided on on multiple occasions.

SNAP Australia article 10 February 10:36 The Catholic (and others for that matter) laity's part in clerical sexual abuse of children.

There are many ways to look at the issue when it comes to the actions of individuals. When doing so we need to be mindful of several known factors that are relevant to survivor/victims of abuse of the kind that we encounter when attempting to come to a decision or a conclusion as to the actions and responses that we ourselves have and those we are assessing have.

The following are some only of the basic aspects that come into play for all of us who are entwined in the global crimes of the Catholic and other religions against vulnerable people. These are women, children (male and female and anywhere in-between on the spectrum) and men in approximately that order. Access and vulnerability are primary considerations.

a) Each individual's response to being abused is unique; there is no reasonable response to an unreasonable situation.

b) The standards by which we judge or asses someone are a mixed and varied set of conditions dependent on our own experiences and on where each of us is in our own recovery.

c) Each of us experience our own form of denial (As defined by whichever diagnostic guide we are using at the time).

d) Morality and performance of duty are artificial measures that become necessary when something essential is lacking. (Alice Miller "For Your own Good" The roots of Violence in Childrearing. Miller is a world renowned author across the world but is not well known or widely recognized or acknowledged in Australia.

e) The default state for humans is to trust (Robert Sapolsky - World renowned expert on human biology, neuroscience and much more).

f) The role of the Amygdala is to learn who and what not to trust (Sapolsky).

g) We live in a Christian cultural hegemony that has defined our legal and justice systems and more for more than 100 years.

h) The law is decades behind the reality of what it is to be a human being - the nearest and most easily understood description of that that I am aware of is openly discussed by Sapolsky and Alan Alda in the following video Sapolsky and Alan Alda

i) The order of precedence of events is of paramount importance.

j) When all of the above have been taken into account including our own responses to our own abuse and our own projections and our own disconnections and dissociation then we are possibly in an appropriate position to make public judgements and assessments on others. Other unknown or unmentioned, or unintentional requirements may need to be added to this list.

k) An assessor must at all times provide procedural fairness and natural justice. The decision maker must only take into account the relevant facts and ignore the irrelevant facts.

l) If your premise is false all that follows will also be false.

j) Given our propensity to anthropomorphize other humans we are prone to that form of blindness.

k) Our ability to pattern match with and to recall with accuracy is also an essential in discussions like this.

Until then we are not working with the best possible grasp of the spectrum of issues that both we and the individual we are assessing or may be experiencing or my have experienced in the past are included together with a balanced perspective of our own biases and limitations in regard our intention or motivations with respect to the outcome or assessment we are aiming for.

Andrew Collins Your statements would be valid if the premise that "The faithful say that they are the church" is true and partially correct; unfortunately it is only partially true and correct as some do say or claim that they are the church while others do not.

That makes it difficult to apportion blame in the above way, which does not serve to clarify the situation as many assertions have to be qualified on the basis of fact. The basis on which some of the above assertions are made cannot be claimed to be valid and applicable to all laity.

It is correct that some laity are responsible to some degree. Some did stand up and speak out, some were further abused when they did attempt to raise awareness. The actions of some did play a role in continuing the abuses. Some did march up to the bishops offices and were lied to as usual.

Others were too afraid to do anything. Those that did demand that the church should stop fighting victims (This would include the many victims still bonded to the the church) and those who demanded that the church shows leadership to every other person on the planet is simply not feasible as there are billions of people who see no relevance or importance in the weasel words of a complicit pope or other Church leadership as in the view of many applying more mythology, more fallacious claims and more outlandish claims and endless spurious measures and long wordy named panels simply cannot resolve the issue of clergy raping children just as you or I individually cannot achieve that.

Many people will be outraged by your deferral to this corrupt Church and many more will find your notion to be both absurd and undemocratic in our secular country. Others will resist with every recourse at hand as if your ideals were to be fruitful we would quickly fall into a more advanced stage of a the current Christian cultural hegemony than we already have. Many will be more than outraged at the attempt to embolden a foreign state to interfere with the sovereignty of Australia and it's rules and laws of governance and many would also see that as a act of treason.

Why? The Roman Catholic Church is the property of and in the control of the Vatican' that is why we have am embassy in Rome via the Holy See; also because the role of governance and sovereignty in our country places that burden on to the state and federal governments pf Australia as well as the Chief ministers of each territory simply because no-one wants to have a bigger and more powerful hegemony thant we have and continue to have and still allows religions to pervert the course of justice for every victim of sexual crimes in the country.

The failure is in fact a failure of governance by our own governments which have been extensively infiltrated by badly affected psychotic, psychopathic, misogynistic compromised people of religion and those who gain benefit, power and control over large numbers of Australian people.

I have a personal preference for my own hypothesis which I have published as the home page with additional notes and is open for public review and public discussion along with this page at any time which can be made via +61 075 64 12311 or by emailing me at with a subject line that includes a reference to this article by including it's identifier of 'about article 676'

email   Facebook share link   Youtube Chanel LinkedIn share link Click to chip in  Twitter share link   Print

Divider - dont forget to donate so we can keep on with education to protect children - hope you benefitted from reading this

Surprise yourself -

"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I don't stand outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave. I've noted carefully what his Holiness has said in the United States. Obviously that was a source of great comfort and healing in the United States. I'm like all Australians very much looking forward to what the Pope has to say here in Australia as well, as I am to my own conversation with the Pope later this morning." Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister of Australia, 17 July 2008. more

If you found this information to be of assistance please don't forget to donate so that we can extend these information pages which are focused on providing knowledge and information to survivor/victims on their Human Rights with justice, compassion and empathy at the fore along with sound knowledge of Human Biology and Psychology, Human Evolution and Neuroscience. Information is not provided as legal or professional advice; it is provided as general information only and requires that you validate any information via your own legal or other professional service providers.

Look for these other FAQyMe Gene educated, secular, social-inclusion sites.

Clergy Abuse Action - repurposed || Molested Catholics by the Million || Captain Obvious - My Broken Society || A first in Secular Australia for Children - It's not Rocket Science || The Blue Print - It's OH so Obvious - repurposed || The GCAC - The Global Clergy Abuse Crisis - repurposed || TFYQA Think for Yourself, Question Authority || XT3 Molested Catholic courtesy of George Pell and babbling Benny || Defending the Human Rights of Catholic Adults and Children Trauma in Religion || The FAQyMe Gene - The FAQ Why Me Gene blog

Divider - dont forget to donate so we can keep on with education to protect children - hope you benefitted from reading this

Wednesday, 22 June 2022 - I may not have this down syntax, word and letter perfect or with absolute precision in every aspect; however time and the evidence will show that I am closer to the truth than any religion has been or will likely be.
Let history be the standard by which that is measured.

Youtube - listen to Commissioner Bob Atkinson get it wrong - again
The Commissioner informs us that the clergy sexual abuse issue was all over and that it had only been a small statistical glitch around the year 2000. History shows this to have been a display of absolute ignorance on the issue ...

Makarrata : a better future for our children based on justice and self-determination. The Uluru Statement from the Heart. See Yours, mine and Australia's children. I acknowledge the Traditional People and their Ownership of Australia.

  trauma informed     human rights     justice     failed institutions     UN Convention on Human Rights     Rights of the Child and a Bill of Rights for Australia     future     evidence     resilience     not providing or representing a secular Australia     autodidact   

Hegemony: The authority, dominance, and influence of one group, nation, or society over another group, nation, or society; typically through cultural, economic, or political means.


Divider - dont forget to donate so we can keep on with education to protect children - hope you benefitted from reading this

What's HOT on FAQyMe Gene affiliated pages

XT3 Molested Catholic - Corrs Chambers Westgarth

My Broken Society - GOD's LAWS

Molested Catholic - Decree Crimen

Investigating the Impact of Religious Indoctrination on Children's Autonomy and Human Rights

Dear Benedict

Recently published on The FAQyMe gene

#730 The AI and Ken Kosiorek.

#729 How ChatGPT4 sees Kay Ebeling; The City of Angels Lady.

#728 How ChatGPT4 sees me

#727 50 Recent apologies by the Vatican for their criminal actions

#726 From God to God and on to God ad infinitum

#725 More on the Decree Crimen and why QLD police do not investigate the Catholic Church

Constant favorites on The FAQyMe gene

#50 Yours, mine and Australia's children

#116 Human Rights and survivors of childhood sexual abuse by clergy a farce in Australia

#142 How aware are Australians of the truth of the cover up of the sexual abuse of children in 2018?

#157 Australian Constitution Hijacked into Empowering Criminal Clergy

#350 Serving two masters - Australians can still be raped and legally denied justice under the protections afforded to the Vatican by our Constitution

#456 Have you watched the Marita Murphy story? ''You be the Judge''

#574 It's not a lot to ask when the Human Rights of children are at stake

Most Recommended The FAQyMe gene


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingJohn Brown Australian Constitution Hijacked into Empowering Criminal Clergy  


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingJohn Brown Our PM and Premiers have it Wrong and We Lose because of it


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingJohn Brown Human Rights and survivors of childhood sexual abuse by clergy a farce in Australia  


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingPat Mills Catholic Knights and Dirty Money - March 14, 2023


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingJohn Brown Yours, mine and Australia's children  


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingAndrew Klein Child sexual abuse and the destruction of communities


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingPaul Levey About my life and my abuse by the Catholic paedophile priest Gerald Francis Ridsdale  


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingJohn Brown Transcript - Traumatized and Venting on the NSW Police Minister's words


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingMarita Murphy Have you seen the Marita Murphy You be the Judge story yet?  


Star RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingStar RatingJohn Brown The intention to defraud the child of their human rights and human dignity begins with entrapment of the child

Were you like so many others born into a constitutionally protected God based death and rape culture?

About and bits

Copyright The FAQyMe Gene © 2023. Trauma in Religion - On Assessing others and the foreign state of The Vatican Site Map XML Site Map
IP Geolocation by geoPlugin